Mathematics in the Hierarchy
William S. Stoertz
January 2, 1997
Moscow, Russia, C.I.S.
I will try to lay out the hierarchy of creation, and where
mathematics fits in.
The hierarchy of creation is: God's Heart (Purpose), Sung
Sang and Hyung Sang, Yin and Yang, Universal Prime
Energy I, Intellect, Emotion and Will, Reason, Concepts and
Laws, Logos, Hyung Sang (Prime energy or UPF III),
Creation (creativity, new body, unified body, or UPF II).
Just writing out this, I see some unclarity, confusion, or
difference between Divine Principle, Unification Thought,
and Unified Field Theory viewpoints or expressions. I will
first restate this above hierarchy from the Unification
Thought viewpoint: God's Heart (Purpose), Inner and Outer
Quadruple Bases...
Unification Thought
Divine Image
Attributes of the Original Image
Sung Sang and Hyung Sang
Yang and Eum
Individual Images
Structure of the Original Image
Inner and Outer Quadruple Bases
Divine Character
Heart
Logos
Creativity
Unified Field Theory
General Principle of Construction of Logos
Heart
Purpose
Logos
Creation
Construction of Logos in Creation
God's Heart
God's Purpose
God's Providence of Creation
God's Specific Providence
Construction of Logos in Providential Plans
God's Heart
God's Purpose
(then relating to God's History)
God's Overall Providence
God's Specific Providence (for a specific time and
person)
(then Logos of detailed plans)
WS -- Okay, where does this go wrong?
HF -- It's too constructed.
WS -- What does that mean?
HF -- It's too linear. Everything has its place. A bird, for
example, flying. It is flying somewhere. Why? There is
some reason. It is in a certain cycle of its life, and it is a
certain season. The earth also has cycles. The bird is also
part of an overall ecological cycle. So, you see, cycles,
hierarchies, purpose, energy.
WS -- How do You balance it all?
HF -- Never forget My overall purpose: the world for men
to live in, to relate to Me in love, as My perfect reflection,
and that means the love of husband and wife.
WS -- What type of planning or overall review can You
bless?
HF -- The one that relates to My purpose.
WS -- Okay, what does math have to do with this?
HF -- There are hierarchies or levels. Math relates to, fits
into, or describes that. Math is a description of an order that
exists.
WS -- Which is first or prior: the order, the reality, or the
mathematics?
HF -- It is a fine point, but heart is first, then Logos. That is
mathematics. Then the reality. Now there is also a
mathematics to describe the reality. But it is derived through
the Logos, through the sung-sang, not coming out of the
reality. Always the sung-sang is subject position.
WS -- What do You need mathematics for?
HF -- What is mathematics? Symbolism, describing
relationships, rules, and standards in Logos. Do I use
mathematics? The relationships come out by themselves,
and then there is the formulation. It is very intuitive.
WS -- What does "intuitive" mean, for You, in Your case?
HF -- I have My Own computer or assistance. But that is
subordinate. So it is like invisible, automatic, or intuitive, for
Me. Yes, it's an angelic realm. That way I don't have to
bother with it.
WS -- What type of formulation or Logos do angels deal
with?
HF -- Fundamental Logos is that which concerns Me
directly. Once that principle is set up, I can pretty much
ignore it. That's why the six days of creation. In the seventh
was your "logos" or responsibility. It requires conscious
attention. I concerned by My conscious attention, and, once
established, I leave it for automatically. Subordinate Logos
does not become part of the major (Providential)
formulation, but is assumed or subsumed.
WS -- Then math?
HF -- Yes. I paid attention to math at one point (at that
point). Logos itself was created in the creation process.
Why they are against the concept of the "creation of Logos"
as in "Jesus Christ was not created"? Because it is internal
to me. No, Logos is also formed, as the concept of man was
formed, and then each man, especially the Savior. The
process of creation of the master plan was a lot of running
back and forth and around, with principles, concepts,
Logos. That took place prior to the creation.
WS -- So what did You create first, in the internal realm?
HF -- My Desire, then My Object, in the internal realm.
WS -- Your First Object was very abstract.
HF -- Like the Holy Spirit. I also loved My Ideal, of the
True Man (man and woman).
WS -- But it didn't look like a "man".
HF -- I had to realize or perfect it. It didn't take place in
physical time and space.
WS -- There is a realm prior to the ideal realm.
HF -- The realm of Logos. The ideal realm is part of the
realm of Logos. Then there is a realm of the creation of
Logos, prior to or behind the Ideal Realm. Then there is a
realm of Heart behind or prior to Logos.
WS -- So Heart, Logos, Ideal Realm, creation.
HF -- The process of creation is: Heart, Logos, Ideal Realm,
physical creation, spiritual world. But the order of the
created world is: Heart, Logos, Ideal Realm, spiritual world
centered on man, and physical world, starting with man's
physical body.
WS -- Man can relate directly to You through heart.
HF -- I can relate directly to the physical world through
sung-sang.
WS -- That is: Heart, Purpose, primary Providence, specific
Providence, Logos, primary unified field, secondary unified
fields, Universal Prime Force, physical matter.
Then how do Logos, unified fields, sung-sang, and
Universal Prime Force relate to one another, on a detailed
level?
HF -- Vertical and horizontal. One is the expression of the
other. They are different forms or dimensions, one of the
other. Then there are levels.
WS -- Logos comes from above, vertically.
HF -- Logos has a vertical and horizontal component, within
its realm. Horizontal is the store images, principles. Vertical
is the executive commands (and reporting). Logos comes
vertically to the realm of creation.
WS -- How does Logos relate to Universal Prime Force?
HF -- As Logos is vertical (purpose, command), Universal
Prime Force is horizontal (a definition of relation on a lower
level). However, Universal Prime Force is vertical, in
relation to force of give-and-take action.
WS -- That is a stepped hierarchy of vertical and horizontal.
HF -- Yes. That which is horizontal on a higher level
becomes vertical with respect to the lower level.
WS -- What is force of give-and-take action?
HF -- You all know what force is in your world or reality.
You can feel it. Force is based on action. Action is
reciprocal action. What is it? The give-and-take between the
entities. What is that? The give-and-take between their sung-
sangs within the unified field combining them.
WS -- How does Universal Prime Force translate into give-
and-take action in the horizontal (physical) world?
HF -- Force is the definition of the give-and-take action
within that realm. The Universal Prime Force is the
definition of the give-and-take action as defined within the
unified field. Then the unified field defines the sung-sangs,
or, that is, the sung-sangs are defined in reference to the
unified field. The unified field is subject; the sung-sangs are
object.
WS -- Which is first, prior, or primary: the unified field, or
the comprising sung-sangs?
HF -- Principally, the unified field is primary and subjective.
However, that is also a give-and-take relationship -- namely,
the advent of the unified field is conditioned or made
possible on the foundation of the unification of their sung
sangs. And that, respectively, is often, practically, based on
the proximity or the impinging presence of their hyung-
sangs. So the unified field is potential, and become actual,
when the separated beings become proximate, or come into
the realm of give-and-take.
WS -- So some kind of unified field ("realm") is already
existing, embracing them.
HF -- Of course -- the universe, or the wider body.
So, in the creation, the hyung sang often comes first, prior
to, the sung-sang relationship. So it would appear. But, in
fact, actually, the sung-sang relationship, or unified field, is
already there.
There is always an enveloping unified field. It is just a
question of what degree, what intensity, what order. You
have to analyze the situation.
Within the context of the larger unified field, the lower-
order unified field arises, with reference to the specific
sung-sangs which are coming into give-and-take. The
lower-order unified field comes into being according to
Logos (defining that particular level).
WS -- So Universal Prime Force (II or III) is defining one
aspect of the give-and-take of the hyung-sangs of the
respective entities, from within the realm of the unified field
immediately enveloping or including them.
HF -- Now, stating it that way, you now see why the
general term of "Universal Prime Force" is in fact applicable
for UPF I (within God), UPF III (origin of physical matter
and energy), and UPF II (directive energy). Universal Prime
Force is that which defines the interaction from the sung-
sang realm. That is, more exactly, Universal Prime Force is
the horizontal aspect of the definition of the relationship of
interaction, within the more sung-sang realm, of the
horizontal aspect of that interaction within the more hyung-
sang realm.
WS -- That's why, "force" to "force".
HF -- Exactly.
So: "How does Logos relate to Universal Prime Force"?
Logos defines, at the level of sung-sang interaction
pertaining to the level of interaction in question between
beings, the aspect of interaction pertaining to "force" -- that
is, the horizontal definitions relating to force, motion,
velocity, position.
WS -- Then what could we say about this specific type of
creation sequence: God"s Heart, God"s Purpose, God"s
overall Providence, God"s specific Providence, general
Logos, specific Logos, overall unified field, lower-order
unified fields, Universal Prime Force, sung-sang of entity
7A*, hyung-sang of entity 7A*, physical force. Physicists
would just say there is physical law, entity 7A*, and
physical force. There is so much behind that physical force!
Unificationists would generally prune it down to God"s
Purpose, Logos, Universal Prime Force, individual truth
body, and physical force.
HF -- Okay... good enough for a start. Let"s get started.
What would you say about that?
WS -- Why do we need mathematics?
HF -- To satisfy people"s insistence to make things clear
and general.
WS -- What"s wrong with that?
HF -- Reality is not simple, not at all. Mathematical
expressions apply within a limited, purified context.
WS -- Unified Field Theory talks about that context. Why
else is the validity of mathematics compromised?
HF -- Because there are higher-order laws which talk about
the more general levels, overall phenomena.
WS -- Where do those formulations or laws come from?
Logos?
HF -- Yes, but. Out of all the complications of real-world
complexity, emerge high-order laws of crystalline simplicity
and generality.
WS -- Why?
HF -- That is the beauty of Principle: because it is not all
that complexity, but the order and simplicity, lawfulness,
that emerges. Even in history.
WS -- Why does that happen?
HF -- Because, although higher-order laws are built upon
lower-order laws and principles, in fact, the higher-order
principles are subject, and lower-order laws are attendant to
them.
WS -- Okay, we discussed that the mathematics of God"s
Heart, and the fundamental dual essentiality to all things, is
simplicity and complexity. How is that expressed?
HF -- Simplicity is 1, complexity is... anything besides 1.
Yes, you can say 0 and 1. The existence of 0 and 1 both
within, or attributed to, God"s Heart, is enough to generate
all the myriads of complexity.
WS -- How can we express that mathematically?
HF -- In the set S of elements e there is a function F such
that for every element e of the set S, F(e)=1.
WS -- That is so obvious, it seems like a joke.
HF -- That"s why it is a universal truth. Simplicity means
that the same is true for all of them. So, for everything in the
universe and everything imaginable, all of them in that
group have something in common! God is the harmonized
Subject of the dual essentialities... You"ll see for most of the
things in Unified Field Theory, it is so obvious...
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