Remaining Questions on Anthropology
Anthropology II
February 28, 1997
William S. Stoertz
Moscow, Russia, Northeast Continent

(8:19 am)

WS -- I"m going to come up to God with these questions.

HF -- Einstein did like that too. What do you want to know?

WS -- Okay, Heavenly Father, we were still asking the 
questions remaining from last time. I numbered them wrong, 
also!

HF -- Yeah.

WS -- Here are all the questions, from February 25th.

	(1) How old really were Adam and Eve, that is, how 
long ago?

	(2) Who were the original ancestors?

	(3) What is the God-centered point of view on 
Evolution?

	(4) Why were there different branches of separate 
humanity (Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons, and others, I 
suppose) even after Adam and Eve?

	(5) How far back do you have to go before You can"t 
call them humans?

	(6) What are those species (Pithecanthropus, 
Australopithecus, Afarensis, Lucy, etc.)?

HF -- Okay, we answered the first three, or four.

WS -- What was the fourth? 7Why were there separate 
branches of humanity even after Adam and Eve?*

HF -- Yes. [7Nel"za b"ez serdtse*] 7Never without heart*. Why 
I say so? Because that makes the crucial difference between the 
evolutionists and creationists. That"s the radical conflict 
(contradiction), actually. The one is with the heart, and God, but 
lacking the scientific truth. The other has the (scientific) 
knowledge, but doesn"t know the origin or essence. YOU 
HAVE BOTH.

WS -- I do? Okay, why were there separate branches of 
humanity after the fall?

HF -- Division and conflict was the main theme of humanity 
after the fall. So you see what happened. The languages divided, 
the peoples and cultures, with wars, tribal infighting, family 
conflict (feud, breakdown). It has been going on ever since, 
without cease or pause. Also racial hatred. That is another main 
factor in division or separation.

WS -- Somehow when you get into the sordid factors of the 
fallen reality, it loses its original interest or taste.

HF -- Yes. That"s why I don"t like to talk about it, and I won"t 
go into all the details of the eight hundreds of thousands of 
years...

WS -- Why do You say 7eight hundreds of thousands of 
years*?

HF -- It"s figuratively (a way of) speaking. You know what I 
mean.

WS -- 7Eight hundred thousand years* means an interminably 
long time, a whole age.

HF -- Yes, that"s right. How long was it? As you know, it 
was...

WS -- 2.5 million years...

HF -- 2.4 or 2.5. Give or take... In fact, I started working since 
(...) on the New Creation.

WS -- Which is?

HF -- Take Noah. That"s the New Creation. Take it very real. 
That"s the idea.

WS -- A hundred thousand years ago.

HF -- Yes. The new creation started a hundred thousand years 
ago. You can see the signs (in archaeology and anthropology, 
languages).

WS -- Then what were 7Neanderthal* and 7Cro-Magnon* 
man?

HF -- Of course they were descendants of the original Adam 
and Eve, the fallen. Now, in My eyes, they are already new 
(different) species, and they separated too. After the Fall 
(Flood), in fact, all the people didn"t die. But there was the new 
race or species of My descendants. This principle you can find 
all throughout the history: Israel and Canaan, Jacob and Esau, 
Romans and barbarians, Unification Church and 7outside 
world*.

	Now, you see, of course, they are all 7My 
descendants*. But I have to measure from the providential 
viewpoint, as chosen people, or as who will do My Will, and 
who is enemies. But what is My original desire? Unification. 
That they reunite.

	So you see, the Unification Church has two qualities: 
(1) as the Chosen People, to stay pure and go a narrow way; (2) 
as the epitome of blending, reunification. Those two seem 
utterly contradictory, so you have two schools of thought also 
among you.

	What is My desire or My way? Harmony centered upon 
parents, the parental viewpoint. That"s why we have True 
Parents. See? I remade True Parents as the original ancestors of 
mankind. Directly speaking, it is absurd, to graft all mankind 
into someone already alive, but providentially speaking, again, it 
is the way. So you now have the Blessing. Now tell them. This 
is the Blessing, for all of you.

WS -- Thank You.

	We have the second question: 7How far back do you 
have to go before You can"t call them humans?*

HF -- That depends on the definition of 7humans*. Now, from 
some viewpoint, all of you are not humans. You are the fallen 
race. Only True Parents are My true lineage, and they are not to 
be contaminated. But I saved you from the atomic bomb, and I 
am even engrafting you, some of you, step by step, into True 
Parents" direct lineage. See? Even you had that desire or hope. 
Now, thirdly, through the Blessing, you are all becoming True 
Parents" lineage, to a lesser extent, honestly -- you are 
becoming human. 7Human* means in the original image and 
likeness of God. Now, see, I am doing this for all people. You 
see? I desire all people to become truly human. Primarily, that 
they stop sinning. Family breakdown is the primary element of 
that. I don"t even require the religious formality or confession 
of faith. You don"t worship idols. 7Humans*, in this context, 
means those humans who fulfill their true purpose, more or 
less. See? I want to redeem the whole human race, and now I 
am giving you all the chance. It is God"s Heart and Father"s 
heart, clearly. Come to the Blessing. Now tell them. This 
Blessing is for you.

WS -- But, relative to my question, bluntly speaking, where 
would You not call the ancestors humans at all any more?

HF -- There was an Adam and Eve. It is an iron-clad Principle 
requirement. See, you are wavering now. That"s where it falls 
down. If you lose the primary structure of God, Adam and Eve, 
the Commandment, Lucifer, and the Fall -- you really lose the 
essence, the structure and the framework, and anything goes -- 
it becomes an amorphous mass, and reverts to classic 
anthropology, evolution. See? That is where 7evolution* is 
wrong, wrong, wrong! This temptation is always standing 
before you when you go into the scientific research. You may 
lose the details, but if you lose the essence, the Principle, you 
have lost everything.

	Now, to answer your question: Yes: There was an 
original Adam and Eve, and before them was a clear and 
straight lineage of very pure, spiritually white, clean beings 
which provided the lineage for the advent of Adam and Eve. 
See, a being without sin, something nice, nicest, -- like an 
umbilical cord, which afterwards is discarded. They led up to 
Adam and Eve -- they were not humans; I will not call them 
animals, because you come to an unprincipled conclusion again. 
Let"s say, I made this 7umbilical cord* to connect humanity to 
their animal origin.

	Jesus had a human and divine nature. You as a human 
have an animal and divine nature. It is true; you cannot deny it. 
But, principally, human beings are not animals. It is a new 
realm. What happened to them? That is another story, and the 
problem. (We"re still dealing with it now.)

	See? It is good to read Principle. Now you have 
everything so clear. This here, what I gave you, is (contains) 
new revelation. See? It is to be valued, and will definitely help 
both for brothers and sisters to understand or clarify some of 
the questions they have; and also clarifies some mysteries of 
science.

	The last question is, 7What are those species 
(Pithecanthropus, Australopithecus, Afarensis, Lucy, etc.)?*

	Okay, now, for this, you need to investigate in detail the 
facts, or discovered facts, about those beings (entities, species, 
fossils).

	Why? In order for the original mind to work, which is 
connected to God, it is not just a question of asking some 
question up in the air, and getting an answer. (1) We need to 
know what we are talking about. We need to have some 
agreement. You are using terms which are for you just terms, 
and also for the original mind are just terms, or catchwords. (2) 
Also, you have to have the right motivation, or reason, and 
seriousness, and connection. I don"t speak in a vacuum. I speak 
out to people, so that it will go some place, the seed will be 
planted, and grow. I think it will.

	So, when you start working with real beings (fossils, 
evidence) in the field, and with the scientists, and their work, 
their journals, their associations, then the insight I give you can 
be dovetailed (into their work), and have meaning. You see, 
simultaneously, new theories are coming up, in keeping with 
the spirit of the age, which is no longer simple evolutionism, 
but a more communitarian development, as well as the very 
Pure Love and True Family movement, of which you are a part, 
but the waves of which are washing out to the very fields of 
scientific endeavour, and all other places around society -- even 
prisons!

	Now, how have we answered the questions? Is it 
reasonable? Does it go someplace? It will all come back to 
reality, and it will also come back to your Principle life, or life 
of faith. I am the God of faith and practice. See? I made this 
world, such a world.

ITPN, 1997.2.28. 9:20 am. WSS and Heavenly Father.

HF -- See? I signed it.



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